danorsong: (dispossesed)
I'm really mad about the Hitler stuff. Obama is not Hitler. There is a huge huge difference. I can't put into words how much I hate it. I find it more offensive then saying he is the devil. Perhaps it is my fault being too emotional and wanting to have a conversation based on fact.

A conversation could go something like this:

Not Me: "You know I really don't like Obama. After all this whole heath care thing its unsettling.

Me: "Oh really? Why is that?"

Not Me: "Well I'm working really hard for my money and my work covers me and my family. While 1/3 of my paycheck is taken out automatically to cover those benefits I simply can't afford to pay more taxes for a federally subsidized program to be run. After all my co-pay was raised from $10 to $20 pervisit $40 for a specalist (ie double) and I now have a thousand dollar deductible when I used to not have one at all."

Me: "Really, god that sounds aweful, um don't you wish you had the option for something different maybe? Something that might work?"

Not Me: "Yes, but I don't trust the government to run it well. I mean compare the post office to UPS or FedEx! USPS is going bankrupt because these companies offer great prices and speedy delivery with very good insurance!"

Me: "You know, that is a really valid point all we know is that the current plans, they aren't working. Who knows what prices UPS and FedEx would have if there wasn't a constant low priced option like USPS? I definitely see your point though."

Not Me:"And I can see yours. So lets agree to disagree and go get a milkshake maybe go bowling."

Instead I have had something more like



Not Me: OMG I hate this health care plan it's wigging me out!"

Me: "um ok? Why?"

Not Me: "Because Obama is like Hitler! Hitler tested on Jews ya know! And Obama is goign to kill old people! AND the people that are too poor!"

This is where I got bathshit crazy and want to punch Not Me in the face. You see Hitler has a few things that I associate with him. One was the medical testing on the jews. Of course he blamed them for the economic downfall of Germany first, made most of the country distrust them. He started programs for the youth so that they grew up only seeing that one direction. No Obama's message to the school children was not brain washing. Here is the text if you haven't gotten a chance to read it, see it, or you have just been avoiding it )

Hitler also did things like.... lock them up in concentration camps. Oh and I don't know.. Gas Them. Killed them. Encouraged people to treat them,us,all worse then dirt. Taught the pure blood Germans that Jews,them,us,all were the reason for the massive poverty and lack of education among the working classes. After all 3/4 of the Jewish population were in the upper middle class or flat out rich. These wealthy people were marrying into pure blood families, even then love didn't always recognize race. (half of the Jews who married married non Jewish people! Oy gevalt!) He taught the lower classes greed. If they took the power, the wealth from the Jews it would be theirs and Germany would flourish.

I'm fairly sure that Obama hasn't said that he wants to kill the CEO's of heath care industries. Maybe he did and I missed it I am human after all. I'm pretty sure that he isn't asking us to rape their wives and daughters, to plunder their house stealing family heirlooms, or even to go into communities of those richer then us and break their windows, or light the buildings on fire. As of yet, not one CEO has gone into hiding, though a few are making plans for Dubai (yeah Haliburton is on that band wagon hell they built it). I may also have missed the black trucks coming in the night and taking these rich elite and shuffling them off to be killed. Likewise I haven't seen a rise in elder death. Maybe I ma being overly simple here, or just naive. Perhaps I am simply claiming too much heritage from my mothers line having only attended a hand full of Seder, and most of them for Passover. Maybe I'm just drunk on the Obama cool-aid, all that is left to me since realistically Kuchinich will never be elected.

All of those maybe's become non important to me though, when I see the Obama with the mustache picture or hear people call him Hitler. At that point I want to cause that person pain. I want to make them suffer. I want to have them think about the idea of their whole people being wiped from the earth simple because they prospered. How can they fathom genocide. It lasts for an instant and then I can see again with out the red haze, a blink is all it takes.

I can step back from the conversation and realize that this person and I will never find common ground on this issue and I give up. If there is a chance that we can have a reasonable discussion about it later, fine. I can leave that on the table. I can not however argue a point or learn from someone who can believe whole heartedly in the dogma that links Obama to Hitler. Someday I'll be a stronger person, I know this. Right now though the only strength I have is to remain calm listen to any points that they have that are based on facts, and hope that we can find some kind of path through the next few years.

April 2012

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